Avistamiento espectacular 356s

hoy a las 20:30 en la N2 a la altura de Guadalajara con direccion Barcelona,he visto dos portacoches cagados de 356s, entre 16 y 20 ,de todo tipo, coupes ,cabrios ,no he podido sacar ninguna foto, porque los he visto justo cuando me desviaba en una salida,¿de donde vendran y a donde iran ,espero que a Barcelona,y no para Europa.no creo que vuelva a ver nunca tantos 356 juntos.

 

Si este fin de semana en Estoril era la 39 reunión de 356, espectacular, cerca de 200 unidades creo . Vendrían de allí.
Hay bastante información del evento en internet

 

Vuelven de la concentracion europea de 356 en Portugal.
Bonitos eh??:idolo:

 

No puedo subir varias fotos a la vez sorry

 

Y más ejemplares preciosos...

 

Si eran matrícula de Bcn/Española eran los 16 compañeros del club que han estado en el Meeting de Estoril (han ido Speedsters, cabrios, SC, C, …) creo que lo ha ha faltado ha sido algún Carrera. Si eran ellos, en total 16 (en camión). Otro compañero con un C iba con él haciendo BCN-Estoril-BCN y no se si finalmente también habrá ido el compañero asturiano con el suyo.

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pues deben ser esos ,por que las placas eran Españolas,historicos algunos,lo que me ha extrañado es que no fueran escoltados por la GC,jejeje,hay viaja mucha pasta.

 

Pues entonces son ellos. Como mínimo viajan dos Speedsters. Un compañero tenia un Carrera y lo vendió hace unos meses. Había otro que también tenia uno pero también se vendió (hace algo más). Se que hay algunos compañeros que los siguen teniendo pero no se si han ido o no al Meeting.
Tendría que estar bonito el camión… Entre ellos hay un SC Coupe Rojo que me tiene enamorado :drooling

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En Granada el sábado vi un 356 speedster espectacular, no me dio tiempo de foto ya que iba circulando y se me caía la baba...

 

Simplemente espectaculares. :drooling:drooling

 

con placas españolas, de Speedsters creo que sólo hay dos y son estos. Por cierto el de capota beige un excelente tipo (el actual propietario).

 

Hola

Eso son cabrios, no Speedsters, los Speedster tiene el parabrisas más pequeño.

 

Son Speedsters, la segunda foto es el de la derecha, el rojo. Y el de la primera puedes verlo en esta de delante. Fíjate en la ventanilla lateral.



Un saludo

 

Este juraría que es un cabrio, los Speedster tiene la ventana lateral más pequeña y redondeada.



Estos dos son cabrios, me juego 1 euro:duelo:

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Aquí el de la flecha me sigue pareciendo un cabrio y el otro rojo también. el parabrisas del Speedster era muy bajito y las esquinas superiores son curvas, no cuadradas. Compara con el blanco: tiene la misma altura, o eso me parece. Apuesto otro euro

 

Me ha picado la curiosidad con esos parabrisas. He encontrado algo de info aquí, está en ingle´s:


http://convertibledregistry.com/history.html


Se trata del convertible D, creado para sustituir al Speedster, las principales diferencias son:

-El parabrisas. Más alto y reforzado.
-La capota, para ajustar con el parabrisas más alto y a las ventanillas elevables .

El resto copio -pego en inglés que tengo que trabajar:

The Porsche 356A Convertible D model is arguably the rarest "production" Porsche 356 model ever manufactured for a full year (Carreras being special order cars not made in groups on the assembly line, and the T6 "twin grille" Roadster was produced for only a few months). Only 1,331* Convertible Ds were made between August 1958 and September 1959.

Vintage photo of an early D. Photo credit: © Porsche, Courtesy of Porsche Speedster Typ 540 - Quintessential Sports Car, Heinrichs, et al By 1958 the Speedster model was four years old and sales were declining. Porsche realized that significant improvements were necessary to attract buyers, but that there was certainly a market for a "weekend racer" with a removable windshield. The Porsche 356A Convertible D was the solution (though a modern marketing department would have picked a racier name!).

Because overall Porsche sales were growing at a steady pace, and the Reutter coachworks were straining to keep up with the demand, Porsche contracted with the Drauz company in Heilbronn to manufacture bodies for the Convertible D (the "D" stood for Karosseriewerke Drauz KG).

On July 31, 1958, Porsche sent a letter to dealers announcing the new "Convertible D" model and specifying the differences. Click the image of the letter shown below to see it full size.

Credit: 356 Registry, Vol. 10, No. 6, pg. 26.
The key differences between the Speedster and the Convertible D are as follows:

Windshield: a completely redesigned, taller windshield with a stronger frame, higher side posts and a better fit to the top assembly. Both models had windshield frames and side posts made of chrome plated brass. Overall the car was 3.5 inches taller.

Top: "The tan folding steel top frame of the Convertible D evolved from the Speedster top to accept the higher windshield frame and roll-up windows. It had tubular steel construction with a steel front bow unlike the wooden bow of the cabriolet." 1 The D top frame had an additional bow than that of the Speedster's and two latches at the front similar to the Speedster's; the cabriolet had three latches. The D's top also had rain gutters added above the side roll-up windows.

Rear window: a significantly enlarged rear window, even larger than the high-bow Speedster's rear window.

Rear Cowl: "The rear cowl of the Speedster was considerably different than that of the cabriolet, being longer and having no recess for the tack strip. ...A new part number was noted (for the rear cowl) with the introduction of the Convertible D, due to the shape of the rear cockpit and modified top mounting." 1

Side windows: glass side windows with wind-up mechanisms, instead of side curtains, were added to the Convertible D. The doors themselves were essentially the same.

Door pockets: added to the D on both interior door panels. Also there was a lockable flap on driver's side; the passenger's side had either the pocket or the pocket with the locking flap.

Seats: coupe-style non-reclining seats (recliners optional on one or both) instead of the minimally padded Speedster seats. Also headrests were an available option on the driver's seat and the headrest on the passenger's seat could be added as well.

Top Boots & Tonneaus: Speedsters were equipped with a vinyl half-tonneau; vinyl full tonneaus could be ordered. Convertible Ds came standard with a vinyl boot cover for the folding top (unlike a half-tonneau, it did not cover the rear area behind the seats). A vinyl tonneau cover could be ordered as an option for the D.

Scripts, badges and moldings: the "Speedster" script was no longer used on the Convertible D — the first prototype D had the script "Speedster D" on the front left fender but the production models did not. Convertible Ds were given the Drauz coachbuilder's badge on the lower right fender. Aluminum upper side moldings, pretty much standard on the Speedster, were continued into the Convertible D model run, however this could be deleted as an option.

Engines: out of the 4,145 Speedsters built, 151 were originally equipped with four-cam Carrera engines. Only 2 Convertible Ds were equipped with four-cam engines out of 1,330 built. Either the 1600 Normal "Damen" (Type 616/1) or the 1600 Super (Type 616/2) engines were typically placed in the Convertible D.

Minor changes: windshield washers became standard equipment, the wiper arms were changed, and the rear view mirror was slightly larger, mounted differently to the mirror support rod, and the dash had provisions for installing an ashtray and even a radio slung below the dash.

All in all, the Convertible D was a somewhat more practical car than the Speedster: a larger windshield, real side windows, and more comfortable seats, while retaining the beautiful body lines and downward sloping beltline that now attracts so many 356 enthusiasts. Of course some of the minimalist, racier features of the Speedster were lost, and many Porsche purists complained long and loud in 1958!

For the 1960 model year the Convertible D model was replaced by the 356B Roadster based on the new T5 body style. However, sales of the "stripped down" 356 continued to decline, and the last year of Roadster production was in 1962, when just 248 T6-bodied cars were made, with production ceasing well before the end of the model year.

In the current market, it is ironic that those 356 models that were the least expensive "back in the day" — the Speedster, Convertible D, and Roadster — are now some of the most costly, exceeded only by rarities such as Carreras and the 550 Spyder.

 

Conozco a los dueños de esos coches, también son socios del club. Los dos tienen varios Porsches. Hay más Speedsters con placas españolas. En concreto a Estoril uno de los que ha ido la lleva de Bcn. Speedster originalmente beig pintado en gris oscuro ;) De esos que indicas en la foto, la unidad de rojo que está al lado del cabrio beig también ha ido al Meeting.

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Yo estaba en el circuito y fue espectacular... empezaron a llegar 356 inundando el paddock, el pit-lane y.... la pista!

Muchísimo nivel.

 

No soy ningún experto en 356, ni siquiera llego a título de ser un simple aficionado :[question]

Pero he coincidido con ambos dueños en varias concentraciones de clásicos y a parte de ser unas excelentes personas se me han hablado de sus vehículos como speedsters del 1960 ambos importados de US. Por lo de deduzco de tu búsqueda y documentación se trataría de Convertibles no ?

un saludo.